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Forced user renames coming soon for SUL


Hi, sorry for writing in English. I'm writing to ask you, as a bureaucrat of this wiki, to translate and review the notification that will be sent to all users, also on this wiki, who will be forced to change their user name on May 27 and will probably need your help with renames. You may also want to help with the pages m:Rename practices and m:Global rename policy. Thank you, Nemo 12:55, 3 May 2013 (UTC)Reply



Romaine, er zouden problemen zijn met de authenticatie via w:nl:IPv6 op deze wiki. Zie Community portal. De rare username User talk:2A02:2788:114:116:55BF:2E25:9E0E:1A6F was eigenlijk een IPv6-adres! Wie is onze helpdesk? Misschien helpdesk contact toevoegen aan Contactpagina/Contact page - Geertivp (talk) 18:34, 23 September 2013 (UTC)Reply



Dag Romaine, bestaat er reeds een rekeningnummer bij een erkende bankinstelling om een (bescheiden) bijdrage te leveren? Lotje (talk) 11:46, 5 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hallo Lotje, Er bestaat een bankrekening, maar die is thans in gebruik om de eerste kosten te dekken van de oprichting en vergoed zijn door WMF. Wikimedia België bestaat nog niet, we mogen die naam eigenlijk ook nog helemaal niet gebruiken. Ik denk dat het beter is te wachten totdat we echt formeel zijn opgericht. Geld is op dit moment niet het grootste probleem, waar onze focus momenteel ligt is dat we goedkeuring krijgen van WMF. Groetjes - Romaine (talk) 16:26, 5 June 2014 (UTC)Reply
Okay, dat begrijp ik best, maar op welke rekening kan een modale Belg nu een donatie maken aan de foundation en er de nadruk op leggen dat het voor de be.wikimedia is? Lotje (talk) 05:10, 6 June 2014 (UTC)Reply
Het eerste probleem is dat er geen Wikimedia in België bestaat. We willen juist een Wikimedia in België en dat kunnen we pas zijn als we erkend worden door WMF. En dan pas kunnen we geld ontvangen lijkt mij. Romaine (talk) 18:55, 6 June 2014 (UTC)Reply
Lobbying dan maar? Lotje (talk) 06:51, 7 June 2014 (UTC)Reply
Hallo Lotje, een bijdrage kan gedaan worden op het volgende rekening nummer IBAN BE94 9731 2637 9314 BIC code ARSPBE22 tnv. Wikimedia Belgium Brussel --DerekvG (talk) 22:32, 23 March 2015 (UTC)Reply
Een advertentie zou allicht meer succes kennen. Misschien is dit wel uw persoonlijke bankrekening! Lotje (talk) 12:59, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Meet-up invitation : Concern Belgium chapter création.



Just a message to inform you than the next Wikimedia Belgium meet-up in Ghent will talk about the creation of the association.

If you still interested to be candidate founders, let's joins us to organize all stuff.

Here is the link to framadate for choosing witch are your preferred day for the meeting :

See you soon I hope.

Best regards, Lionel Scheepmans Wiki ou eMail 10:07, 16 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

An important message about renaming users


Dear Romaine,

I am cross-posting this message to many places to make sure everyone who is a Wikimedia Foundation project bureaucrat receives a copy. If you are a bureaucrat on more than one wiki, you will receive this message on each wiki where you are a bureaucrat.

As you may have seen, work to perform the Wikimedia cluster-wide single-user login finalisation (SUL finalisation) is taking place. This may potentially effect your work as a local bureaucrat, so please read this message carefully.

Why is this happening? As currently stated at the global rename policy, a global account is a name linked to a single user across all Wikimedia wikis, with local accounts unified into a global collection. Previously, the only way to rename a unified user was to individually rename every local account. This was an extremely difficult and time-consuming task, both for stewards and for the users who had to initiate discussions with local bureaucrats (who perform local renames to date) on every wiki with available bureaucrats. The process took a very long time, since it's difficult to coordinate crosswiki renames among the projects and bureaucrats involved in individual projects.

The SUL finalisation will be taking place in stages, and one of the first stages will be to turn off Special:RenameUser locally. This needs to be done as soon as possible, on advice and input from Stewards and engineers for the project, so that no more accounts that are unified globally are broken by a local rename to usurp the global account name. Once this is done, the process of global name unification can begin. The date that has been chosen to turn off local renaming and shift over to entirely global renaming is 15 September 2014, or three weeks time from now. In place of local renames is a new tool, hosted on Meta, that allows for global renames on all wikis where the name is not registered will be deployed.

Your help is greatly needed during this process and going forward in the future if, as a bureaucrat, renaming users is something that you do or have an interest in participating in. The Wikimedia Stewards have set up, and are in charge of, a new community usergroup on Meta in order to share knowledge and work together on renaming accounts globally, called Global renamers. Stewards are in the process of creating documentation to help global renamers to get used to and learn more about global accounts and tools and Meta in general as well as the application format. As transparency is a valuable thing in our movement, the Stewards would like to have at least a brief public application period. If you are an experienced renamer as a local bureaucrat, the process of becoming a part of this group could take as little as 24 hours to complete. You, as a bureaucrat, should be able to apply for the global renamer right on Meta by the requests for global permissions page on 1 September, a week from now.

In the meantime please update your local page where users request renames to reflect this move to global renaming, and if there is a rename request and the user has edited more than one wiki with the name, please send them to the request page for a global rename.

Stewards greatly appreciate the trust local communities have in you and want to make this transition as easy as possible so that the two groups can start working together to ensure everyone has a unique login identity across Wikimedia projects. Completing this project will allow for long-desired universal tools like a global watchlist, global notifications and many, many more features to make work easier.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns about the SUL finalisation, read over the Help:Unified login page on Meta and leave a note on the talk page there, or on the talk page for global renamers. You can also contact me on my talk page on meta if you would like. I'm working as a bridge between Wikimedia Foundation Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Stewards, and you to assure that SUL finalisation goes as smoothly as possible; this is a community-driven process and I encourage you to work with the Stewards for our communities.

Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) talk 18:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Problem with spamcontrol to inform member about next meeting.


Hello Romaine, MediaWiki block me when I send more than ten email to other user. Is that a solution to send more than 10 E-mail using the site ? Lionel Scheepmans Wiki ou eMail 18:12, 14 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hello Lionel, I had the same issue earlier as well and after searching and asking I found no way to solve it practically. The maximum number of mails only countrs for some hours, maximal a day. Romaine (talk) 03:59, 17 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
Ok, so that's realy enoying to contacte people... I've already contacted the 10 first people of this list to inform about the framadate. Now I gone contact every one on talking page. That's the only possibility before resolve the problem. Here is the message :
Just a message to inform you than the next Wikimedia Belgium meeting will be on Brussels.
The place isn't definitely fixed but we are already watching for the best day and moment to organize it.
If you still interested about our chapter creation, let's joins us by using this Framadate page for choosing witch are your preferred days and moments to participate to this meeting:
See you soon I hope.

Lionel Scheepmans Wiki ou eMail 14:53, 17 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Belgium Chapter Founding


Hello Future Chapter member,

Romaine made the following announcement on the Belgian chapter portal on September 2nd 2014

Wikimedia Belgium has been approved as chapter by the Board of Trustees on August 6th 2014 after the approval of the Affiliations Committee on June 23rd 2014. This resolution has been published on 29 August.

Thank you Romaine and congratulations to all those who have been pushing this initiative forward.

You receive this message because you registered and confirmed yourself as founding member of the chapter on the Founding/Interested_people-page. The next step is to finalize the foundation of the association (vzw/asbl) according to Belgian law. We have been preparing the foundations documents and now is the time to act for you to support our foundation your can read the official Statuten en Reglement_van_Inwendige_Orde (in dutch) and transaltions in french and english form the general page Chapter_Statutes_&_Bylaws

We need you to provide us with following information :

  • your full names ( first name and family name)
  • your current address ( your official residence : street, nbr , postal code, city, and country if its not in Belgium)
  • your place and date of birth
  • your national number (rijksregister nummer, numéro du registre nationale)
  • your nationality if you are not Belgian but a foreign resident, if you have a double nationality, the belgian will suffice

We don't want you to put these private data on public wiki pages removed online excel-sheet link check my user page DerekvG
If you are a candidate board member fill in the board tab we can only accept 9 candidates for the first board

The closing date is october 1st

Please let me know that you've completed the registration or that you decline the invitation --DerekvG (talk) 12:38, 22 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

forget the above Romaine, i was being overzealous --DerekvG (talk) 18:32, 22 September 2014 (UTC) i've changed the message the excel sheet was removed because as you so rightfully say it compromised the privacy --DerekvG (talk) 14:47, 23 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

protection of dutch Statuten page


Romaine, can you protect the dutch Statuten page such that nobody can make any more changes, only if the general assembly of the chapter assocation approves a change changes can be made in this document

thanks --DerekvG (talk) 18:34, 22 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Done Done - Romaine (talk) 13:33, 23 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

translation grid


Hi Romaine,
someone put up a translation grid on a user page saying what trasnlations he could do, do you know about such a template or example ? --DerekvG (talk) 12:32, 12 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi DerekvG, On Wikimedia talk:Translation requests I made earlier an overview of people who are willing to do translations. Maybe we can recruit more people to help us with this. Romaine (talk) 15:23, 2 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia Belgium projectdagen


Dag Romaine, wie is hier best geplaatst om deze vraag te beantwoorden? Lotje (talk) 07:58, 3 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Ter info


Hoi Romaine, zie meta:Grants talk:PEG/WM BE/Wiki Loves Art 2016‎. Mvg, Taketa (talk) 11:41, 23 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Wiki loves art


Romaine kan je naar de WLA pagina kijken ik heb wat dingen toegeveogd , kijk eventjes of ik dingen misbegrepen heb --DerekvG (talk) 22:34, 23 March 2015 (UTC) kan je wat feedback geven aub --DerekvG (talk) 17:49, 27 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

R, kan je Reactie_op_krantenartikel_Datanews/current_draft sub-pagina weghalen

Creative Commons license spectrum


Hello Romaine, I noticed some time ago that you used a SVG file ( I created, as you thanked me for it. (Appreciated!) Now I noticed you marked the file as "deprecated" in your library ( and I would like to talk about possible improvements or errors in the graph I created. chees Shaddim (talk) 17:19, 21 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Shaddim, The problem I noticed with this file is that there is a Definition of Free Cultural Works. This includes CC0, CC BY and CC BY-SA, but not the other Creative Commons licenses. So there is a very strict line between multiple licenses, while in your image the line between CC BY-SA and CC BY-NC is soft, and even CC BY-NC and CC BY-NC-SA are in a green section. The file looks good (in general), but I marked the file as deprecated as the light green section is problematic and gives viewers of the image a wrong impression (as the perception is green = good, while -NC is terrible). So if the image is changed, so that the light green section is yellow and the yellow section orange, both the bar and the background, I think this would be a better image than other images about this topic. So if you want to change that that would be great! Romaine (talk) 17:57, 21 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
PS: See also c:File:Freies Wissen dank Creative-Commons-Lizenzen Folgen, Risiken und Nebenwirkungen der Bedingung nicht-kommerziell – NC.pdf (English) for more information about the problems with -NC licenses. Romaine (talk) 17:57, 21 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
Hello Romaine, I understand your point very well. Indeed, personally I consider the dark green the only acceptable one. But I slightly reconsidered my position when I read more about Lessig and his vision for the Creative commons licenses as also enabling tool for the Remix culture (e.g. in his great TED talks ). Let me think about this some more time, adapting the colors sounds like a reasonable compromise. cheers Shaddim (talk) 23:01, 22 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
PS: some further note, Lessig's vision was indeed "some rights reserved instead of all rights reserved", a spectrum, instead of a bipolar "free or copyrighted"; the "Free cultural work" thing was a later interpretation.



Hallo Romaine, heb je dit al gezien? Misschien hier een plaatsje geven? Lotje (talk) 12:58, 5 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hi Lotje, Ja, net gezien. Ben nog aan het nadenken hoe dit te promoten. Romaine (talk) 13:27, 5 February 2017 (UTC)Reply
Ik kijk alvast uit naar het resultaat. Lotje (talk) 13:31, 5 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Wiki Loves Public Space 2017 in België en typo


Hallo Romaine, kan je een kijkje nemen om je Userpage bij Commons? Ik had een paar vraagjes ivm Wiki Loves Public Space 2017 in Belgium en Category:Hidden categories. Misschien moet ik daar rechten vragen om dergelijke kleine spellingsfouten te corrigeren zonder jullie daarover lastig te moeten vallen. Zou dat mogelijk zijn? Alvast bedankt. Lotje (talk) 04:26, 30 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hallo Lotje, Dan moet je moderator zijn om dat te kunnen aanpassen, omdat de betreffende pagina beveiligd is. Het is geen probleem om mij te vragen dit soort aanpassingen te doen, dat doe ik wel vaker. Overigens doe ik dat in mijn capaciteit als gebruiker van Commons (en niet als iemand van Wikimedia België). Ik zal aldaar reageren. Romaine 19:47, 30 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
Fijn, bedankt Romaine~ Lotje (talk)

German page


Hallo Romaine. I started a stub at --Gereon K. (talk) 20:40, 12 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Dank je!


Beste Romaine,

Dank voor je welkomstboodschap op mijn OP. Volgend jaar gaan jullie "natuurlijk" 't 5-jarig bestaan uitgebruid vieren? #dtv

Hartelijke groeten van Klaas `Z4␟` V 08:39, 4 December 2018 (UTC)Reply



@Romaine waarom als ik vragen mag? Lotje (talk) 13:05, 30 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Lotje: Toen we voor 2018 budget aanvroeg bij de Wikimedia Foundation, deed de verantwoordelijk medewerker bij WMF diens werk niet, kregen we minder geld, en besloten we als WMBE om niet langer met diegene te willen werken en kregen toen iemand anders van WMF (wat nog steeds goed gaat). Maar die eerdere heeft rancunes jegens mij (ondanks dat we als bestuur het eens waren) en is mij stelselmatig persoonlijk gaan aanvallen. Vervolgens weet diegene het Trust en Safety team van WMF in te palmen met haar verzinsels en die houden het hand boven het hoofd van die medewerker trekken 3x een conclusie over mij zonder ook maar de feiten te checken of het in perspectief te bekijken, waarbij alle misstappen van die medewerker van WMF volledig genegeerd worden. Daarbij worden ook nog eens alle mogelijke basisprincipes van klachtenafhandeling in de wind geslagen. Het resulteerde voor mij een een buitengewoon zwaar onveiligheidsgevoel. Een onafhankelijk expert op dit vlak concludeerde dat vrijwel alles wat WMF in deze situatie fout kon doen ook fout gegaan was. Daar komt nog bovenop dat diverse mensen deze probleemsituatie binnen WMF aan de kaart hebben gesteld bij WMF, maar die doet niets, neemt het probleem niet serieus en op geen enkele manier wordt er maar erkent dat er iets fout gegaan is. Alles bij elkaar heeft er toe geleid dat ik in een jaar tijd vier keer zwaar ziek geweest ben hierdoor, overspannen ben geraakt en dat resulteerde vorige maand in een zware zenuwinzinking omdat ik het niet meer aankon. In die zenuwinzinking heb ik twee mails uitgestuurd met mijn perspectief wat er heeft plaatsgevonden en hoe ik het ervaren heb. Met die mails is men (begrijpelijk) niet blij (zie bestuursvergadering) en alles bij elkaar heeft het mij de conclusie doen trekken dat er grenzen zijn aan wat ik aankan, er minimale basisvoorwaarden zijn om goed te kunnen functioneren (die deels ontbreken) en dat deze situatie niet nog langer kan voortduren. Daarom stop ik als bestuurslid van Wikimedia België.
Men bood nog aan dat ik penningmeester zou blijven, maar er werd gesproken over "punishment" (terwijl ik vind dat vier keer zwaar ziek + overspannen + zenuwinzinking al erg genoeg is) en ik voel me niet gesteund door mijn medebestuursleden. Terwijl ik iedereen tot diep in de nacht sta te helpen, blijkt dat als puntje bij paaltje komt en ik de steun nodig heb, ik empathie mis en me in de steek gelaten voel (in 11 maanden tijd (jan-nov 2018) is er welgeteld één mailtje met bezwaar uitgegaan richting WMF vanuit bestuur WMBE, terwijl de situatie stelselmatig verslechterde en er verder niets mee gedaan werd).
Gelukkig is er wel een een vervolgstap gaande, er wordt de volgende maand een verzoek ingediend om binnen WMF een interne audit uit te laten voeren, want bij WMF is er duidelijk een structureel probleem aanwezig. Zie: m:Request for WMF Internal audits and appeal procedures.
Ik heb vol enthousiast jarenlang hard gewerkt om Wikimedia België een succes te maken en daar kijk ik met plezier op terug. Ik bedank iedereen voor de fijne tijd. Romaine (talk) 14:07, 30 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

How we will see unregistered users



You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki.

When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed.

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18:10, 4 January 2022 (UTC)