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Wikimedia Belgium approved as chapter by the Board of Trustees[edit]

Hello all,

Today I can officially announce the happy news that Wikimedia Belgium is recognized by the Wikimedia Foundation as chapter (and formally need to found WMBE and sign documents/agreements). After the approval of the Affiliations Committee on 23 June 2014, the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has approved with a meeting on 6 August 2014 at Wikimania in London the resolution for the recognition of Wikimedia Belgium. This resolution has been published on 29 August.

Now we can take our next steps in the foundation of Wikimedia Belgium.

Links:

Be welcome at one of the activities of Wikimedia Belgium!

Romaine (talk) 22:49, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

PS: Wiki Loves Monuments 2014 in Belgium and Luxembourg is our first activity: [www.wikilovesmonuments.be|http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/]

Rounding up Wikimedia Belgium constitution[edit]

We are now in the process of finalizing the founding of the Wikimedia Belgium vzw.

I think we should clean up this portal page, move all the projectstuff to the archives, and make a decent introduction of the new asociation. We should present our past projects and events, show an agenda of up coming and planned events, calls for future events to be organised, and a general box to handle our association's official business --DerekvG (talk) 17:37, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

statutes[edit]

--DerekvG (talk) 22:07, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

  • i'm now working at completing the RIO --DerekvG (talk) 22:07, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
  • the dutch draft version of the RIO is finished, please check for omissions or clarifications --DerekvG (talk) 12:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
  • copied rio(nl) into english container page for translation --DerekvG (talk) 20:09, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
    • For the translation in French, we must ask Dereckson. --M0tty (talk) 22:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

official constitution[edit]

The dutch Statuten page has been finalised.

  • can someone correct the Statuts_(fr) and transfer the latest edits to the french version
  • can someone coorect the Statutes_(en) and transfer the latest edit to the english version

A request is made to lock the dutch Statuten page for further edits --DerekvG (talk) 18:24, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

  • done thank you Romaine--DerekvG (talk) 15:20, 23 September 2014 (UTC)


Sysop access for User:M0tty[edit]

M0tty asks for a sysop access, to help to localize system messages. He's aware of the {{LangSwitch}} template.

By the way, I'm volunteer to check any of those system edits and propagated them on translatewiki when required. --Dereckson (talk) 20:01, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Sure, no problem with giving sysop access to him, but which system messages would need localisation? SPQRobin (talk) 20:06, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Ik weet het niet, it's why I volunteer to check if this is Wikimedia Belgium specific adaptation stuff, or MediaWiki-related stuff. --Dereckson (talk) 21:00, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

IRC Summary - Week 23[edit]

  • Romaine succeed its communication goal: we've a working IRC channel, mailing list and OTRS queue ;
  • Romaine, SPQRobin and Dereckson commit themselves to deliver bylaws. SPQRobin and Dereckson will meet irl this Thrusday to kickstart the drafting process ; Romaine will join on IRC evening.
  • We'll all participate to Wiki Loves Monument 2012.
  • A meeting is planned at Brussels Sunday July 1st. Ziko from WMNL will join. We need a place (HSBXL?) and an hour (1pm?).
  • Wiki policy: We would prefer to use only one wiki for members (Wikimedia namespace?) and the public (Main namespace?).

Tasks - Week 24[edit]

Tasks for Dereckson[edit]

  • Create a bug tracker or use an existing one (redmine?) ;
  • See if some kind of Scrum is possible ; if so, if SPQRobin is willing to manage the process being a scrummaster ;
  • See if WMF has a site license and not a user one for Mingle ; if so, ask to use that ;
  • Note somewhere the The Hub idea ;
  • Note somewhere the CentralNotice idea ;
  • Prepare the brochure plan.

Tasks for SQPRobin[edit]

  • Install somewhere the Translate extension if Wednesday we don't have it.
  • Note somewhere he'll have to ask .be domains transfer when the chapter will be reality / see with Romaine if further discussion with NL chapter is needed or if all is already okay on their side.

Tasks not assigned[edit]

  • Ensure we can use HSBXL July 1st ;
  • As soon as we've a feu vert, notify the bistro.

Wiki round of permissions[edit]

In future we follow the procedure of Wikimedia:Access. Romaine (talk) 22:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Consensual requests[edit]

The following permissions can be assigned right now, as they already got a consensus. --Dereckson (talk) 12:23, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

User:M0tty[edit]

  • Administrator (see request above)
  • Translation administrators (to kickstart translation process, as we need some people able to mark pages for translations and learn how the translate extension management work)

User:Dereckson[edit]

  • Translation administrators (as I create content pages, content needed to be marked for translation)

User:SPQRobin[edit]

  • Translation administrators (will manage the statutes translation process)

Formal requests[edit]

The following permissions need to a consensus before being assigned.

User:Dereckson as sysop[edit]

I hereby ask to be added to the sysop technical group:

  • as I'm going to work on a categories tree and would like to be able to fix errors (rename a category isn't possible, we've to delete the old after having created the old) ;
  • to edit a page with external links without having to go through the CAPTCHA (as I'm not autoconfirmed) ;
  • to be able to delete accidental creation pages ;
  • to import templates from Commons or meta ;
  • to manage centralnotice to see if we've to add important events date (will wait a consensus about what we put in CentralNotice, important events like the July 1st meeting?).

--Dereckson (talk) 12:23, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

User:Dereckson as bureaucrat[edit]

I hereby ask to be added to the bureaucrat technical group:

  • to help to process access requests (technically, it means add sysop access, add or remove bot access, add translateadmin access / in practice, I think the good procedure to follow is to have a quick discussion here to get a local consensus, then process the requests following this consensus);
  • because it's better if we're several users to be able to do that, so we don't to create a bottleneck in case of vacancies/inactivities/etc. ;
  • to be able to process rename requests (but on a local 'secondary' wiki and with the SUL, this is a now a very minor issue and I don't think we'll have 3 of them in the following years ; I suspect we'll get a new user, through outreach actions, creating a Firstname Lastname account, then asking a rename to Nickname after some edits on another project like WP).

--Dereckson (talk) 12:23, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Granted as founding user - Romaine (talk) 22:42, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

User:SPQRobin as bureaucrat[edit]

SPQRobin requestes bureaucrat access on the IRC channel. I vouch for him. --Dereckson (talk) 22:02, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Granted as founding user - Romaine (talk) 22:43, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Tasks August/September[edit]

Who wants to do what? Romaine (talk) 15:55, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I want to be a jury member and check of new uploads during Sptember. :-) Vogone (talk) 23:19, 28 August 2012 (UTC)


Request for Translation administrator[edit]

I'd like to have the translation administrator permission, because I want to help to manage translations and I'm translating pages on this wiki into German. Is it acceptable to assign me to this user group? Greetings, Vogone (talk) 23:48, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Do you have experience with the Translate extension somewhere else? It doesn't matter that much here, it's not really being used (yet). SPQRobin (talk) 02:40, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
@Vogone: some background: On IRC we had some while ago a discussion about the usage of this extension. SPQRobin liked the extension, Dereckson and I disliked the extension. To me and Dereckson the extension isn't practical and not workable. I already noticed that that system doesn't help me translate pages, it only annoys me and doesn't show easily what needs translations. Instead we use standard the Template:LangSwitch. Then all translated texts are close to each other on just one page. I also noticed that the extension is messing up the recent changes by default by not showing everything, also very very annoying. I would propose shutting down that extension completely. Greetings - Romaine (talk) 04:10, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
@Romaine: If we would shut down that extension, it wouldn't make sense to give me the rights. It isn't a problem for me to use LangSwitch. But SPQRobin is the master and when he says, we should use the extension, we have to use the extension. ;) Best Greetings, Vogone (talk) 11:29, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Location for the WCA[edit]

Hello,
in the last months, some of the Wikimedia Chapters (in this moment, more than half of them, and in the long term we hope that all of them will join) have been working on the creation of the Wikimedia Chapters Association. We have been talking for a long time about the possible country of registration, and we are currently voting a resolution about the place (voting will close on 25 November). We have three candidate locations, and one of them is Belgium (the others are Netherlands and Geneva, Switzerland). Of course nobody knows which will be the final choice; anyway, I think this is of interest to you (and probably I should have written here before, sorry!). - Laurentius (talk) 11:05, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Prize giving ceremony Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium and Luxembourg[edit]

The prize giving ceremony for Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 in Belgium and Luxembourg will be held on 30 November 2012 at the office of KIK / IRPA in Brussels. For more information read at: Meetings.

There are thoughts to organize a meeting on that day in the afternoon to talk about the founding of Wikimedia Belgium. More should follow later.

Greetings - Romaine (talk) 02:22, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Tasks November/December[edit]

  • Organizing prize giving ceremony Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium & Luxembourg (30 November)
    • ✓ Done - M0tty & Romaine
  • Organize a meeting to talk about the founding Wikimedia Belgium
    • ✓ Done - In the afternoon of 30 November: Meetings
  • Write (and translate) a message about the founding of Wikimedia Belgium
  • Write (and translate) a message about the prize giving ceremony
  • Invite users on meta:Wikimedia Belgium/Members to sign on Founding/Interested people.
    • We need to write and translate a message for that, Romaine is willing to distribute it.
    • ✓ Done - English, French and Dutch message are at this page. I have send all users of list on meta which weren't already on our current list a message on their talk page. Romaine (talk) 02:31, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
  • ...

Feel free to add other items. Romaine (talk) 01:20, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Please sign up for our translation team![edit]

To make it easier to know who can translate from one language into another language, I started with a translation team. Please sign up if you can translate from a specific language to another. See: Wikimedia talk:Translation requests. Romaine (talk) 09:56, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Please sign yourself up with this tool[edit]

On the German Wikipedia the community has a tool to confirm they have met another person, with great results there. Read for more information: User:Romaine/Persönliche Bekanntschaften with the starting process (Dutch, English and German) and/or w:de:Wikipedia:Persönliche Bekanntschaften (German). I would like to enrol this tool to Belgium and Luxembourg, and further. Please sign yourself up with this tool if you have met another user! Thanks! Romaine (talk) 10:03, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Administrator[edit]

Hey all, I requested admin rights for this wiki. This will allow me to remove the continuous spam, and to remove some of the documents that contain privacy relevant information. MADe (talk) 08:16, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that is a good idea. De.vos.katja (talk) 08:27, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Ok. Reliable user with experience on the Dutch Wikipedia. Seems active enough here. I'm in favor. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 18:07, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
As Wikimedia:Access describes, Done rights given. Please be very reserved in deleting pages on which users have worked on. Romaine (talk) 15:57, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

A quick note about “en. guidelines are not a religion”.[edit]

A small bug in the new central authentication showed me a MediaWiki interface where I were logged in, but with contributions in IP. This contribution were under my IPv6 (IPv4 or IPv6 is chosen to connect to a website by Firefox according speed test if I've well understood some documentation), mistaken for a weird username. This were very instructive.

I kindly ask to have a better attitude than this attitude dealing with newcomers for two reasons:

  1. Outreach issue — If I would have been an human being slightly interested by Wikimedia Belgium, and not already someone involved in Wikimedia projects, I would have found this community clearly not engaging;
  2. en.wikipedia is not our religion — To refer to en en.wikipedia guideline to explain a situation isn't a go. Wikimedia projects are diversified, and we should use our own chapter community space guidelines (or a lot better: use instead common sense) instead to refer to the bureauratic fr. and en. policies.

Thank you to deal kindly with newcomers. --Dereckson (talk) 16:14, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

P.S. I also wonder WHY a long alphanumeric nickname should be banned if someone wants that (well... not an IPv6, to avoid confusion, but something like A2736B754B2E2C7D98237383C32). I have clearly my own thoughts about what this is a bad username, but I would tend to be more diplomatic and positive to get a change, and I would certainly not ban this kind of choices. --Dereckson (talk) 16:14, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Dereckson, I fully support your opinion. We should welcome newcomers, and guide them through the sometimes complicated world of Wikipedia / MediaWiki. I agree that we should never offend newcomers. And we should answer them in their own language. In the User talk:2A02:2788:114:116:55BF:2E25:9E0E:1A6F case User:Lotje could not retrieve your language... therefore you could forgive the .en reference... I think we should put no (few) restrictions on the username that someone chooses (as long as it is not offensive?). About the supposedly IPv6 authentication compatibility problem, this should be addressed ASAP. Who is our technical support person for be.wikimedia.org? Would this problem also occur on other servers? Is MediaWiki not IPv6 ready?? Geertivp (talk) 18:40, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
en. As I were editing a page in English (fixed a typo on my userpage), English were perfectly chosen.
I were using en. as for en.wikipedia. The English Wikipedia people tends sometimes to forget there is a lot of guidelines on a lot of project, and English Wikipedia isn't the absolute reference (we clearly see that on Wikimedia Commons). On projects like meta, chapters, Commons, we need to remember we deal with people from different projects, cultures and avoid to impose the way of our home wiki.
MediaWiki. Yes, MediaWiki is IPv6 ready. I logged out, cleared cookies and logged in again, then were no more issue.
I can act as a point of contact if you wish for technical support, as I'm involved in Wikimedia configuration. When I'm not reacheable, SPQRobin could also be contacted. --Dereckson (talk) 22:01, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Who is Who in Wikimedia Belgium[edit]

Shouldn't we create a topic Who is Who in Wikimedia Belgium with a small description of "tasks and reponsibilities"? We could just mention the (alphabetical) user:name; persons that want to give more information about them, could add info on their personal user page? - Geertivp (talk) 06:46, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

  1. Oppose, because of phishing, we have to protect our contributors. Lotje (talk) 12:10, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Event?[edit]

Hackaton in Brussels ZeaForUs (talk) 12:47, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Let's create and use a Atomium café[edit]

Dear Belgium member of Wikipedia, I'm a bite sick about using the mailing list to communicate and share informations with all other member interested about wikimedia Belgium.

That's why I suggest to create the Atomium café page to follow the example of Le bisrto " on fr.wp De kroeg on nl.wp or café on de.wp

We are wikimedians and I think that the mailing work against our productivity, creativity and efficiency.

Let's start a Atomium café wich It will keep and store all informations and discussions in a pretty form always accessible for all newcomer like other members. And let's forgot this shitty mailing list.

Just click on the start to following the Atomium café, and make the notification by email on in ours preferences, and that's it wee don't need no more to communicate.

Lionel Scheepmans (talk) 19:39, 5 July 2014 (UTC)